Sad bitmain

蚂蚁矿池 • 综合讨论区 • from.ed • 于2015-12-30 07:42:34发布 • c-monk2016-01-07 12:29:54回复 • 共2271次阅读
I spent 3 months on f2pool in the hopes antpool would get their internal issues fixed. After 4 days back on antpool it is plain to see that none of the issues have been resolved.  I find this sad and disappealling to mine here.


In the morning (us central time) in will be removing my equipment from antpool and returning to f2pool.

This is based on payout consistency,  in both time and value; each of which I know to be incorrect. Dear antpool/bitmain please quit acting as is you are the only organization which can do math.

Bye


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from.ed • #1 • 2015-12-30 14:04:24
Typical...no response. Ever heard of consumer confidence?
j1pvt • #2 • 2015-12-30 16:37:06
Good for you,
they think they are so clever by ripping people off,
problem is most people just stay,
so antpool keeps on stealing.
What goes around comes around.
f2pool always delivers.
amiga • #3 • 2016-01-01 03:18:24
How are they stealing?  I genuinely want to know.  I've only seen my numbers plummet.  When I try to do a mathematical comparison to what I'd make on F2Pool, though, I don't see a real difference.

j1pvt • #4 • 2016-01-02 12:26:04
If you cant see that Antpool is ripping off its customers then you must be blind.
amiga • #5 • 2016-01-02 16:15:16
That's your answer? Really?  I've compared it against F2Pool and I seem to make about the same with either pool, so where am I getting ripped off? I really want an answer, not an accusation without evidence or at the very least an explanation.
conrad_pearson • #6 • 2016-01-02 21:39:56
If you cant see that Antpool is ripping off its customers then you must be blind.
How about helping the blind to see?  Can you give some specific examples?  They make it clear that they keep the transaction fees.  They make it clear that they charge a fee for PPS and it's been noted on this forum several times that the 2-1/2 difficulty cycle actually pays less than PPS.
MainBit • #7 • 2016-01-03 01:19:47
Bitmain/Antpool/Hashnest - a trinity of brands that are the only truly trustworthy names in the industry .. it is in-fact arguable to say that BTC would be puttering along on a journey to nowhere if it were not for this most excellent company!  

Having said that ..

What you should do, to be entirely objective for a moment (just one moment),  is to have half your gear mining on Antpool and the other half on F2Pool, that way you can compensate for the variance in reward allocation.  When F2Pool wins, you gain .. when Antpool wins, you gain again  :) Then take all that you earn from mining and buy GHS on Hashnest .. keep it going on and on.

P.S.
Hashnest rawks!  Literally saved my life - so I'm an evangelist forever! 
christopherzhu • #8 • 2016-01-03 08:11:15
If you cant see that Antpool is ripping off its customers then you must be blind.
I had such problems & questions, too. But after I calculated them or fixed problems of my mining-farm , I usually found antpool owe me nothing.
I guess what you mean is other miners can't do the math, leading brands can't cheat everyone.
Still, I want to check your math problems, seriously. Antpool's charts and statistics sucks.
btcmner • #9 • 2016-01-03 21:13:19
If you cant see that Antpool is ripping off its customers then you must be blind.
Please justify your claim that Antpool is somehow ripping off its members.
Real figures, based on continuously connected, consistent hash power miner, not some dodgy stats based on some on and off half-hearted member.
c-monk • #10 • 2016-01-05 01:49:05

P2Pool has come a long way since its humble beginnings: It’s now a completely realistic solution for a great many miners. The software is still rapidly developing but it is reliable, featureful, and, of course, P2Pool is critical for the health and welfare of the Bitcoin system: Our trust in the Bitcoin system depends on it being highly decentralized. P2Pool prevents the centralization that non-distributed pools create.  This is important enough to people that P2Pool miners are currently being paid by Bitcoin users to participate.  P2Pool pools payments but mining decisions are still left to all the miners just as bitcoin was intended to work.

This “pool” (really a decentralized/distributed network just like Bitcoin) is still attractive even for people who aren’t thinking about the health of Bitcoin overall. P2pool’s decentralization is accomplished without compromising on miner profits and, unlike solo mining, while still allowing stable income. The things which p2pool can’t do, like provide the utmost low variance (PPS) are offset by the lack of fees and by removing the risk of cheating by pool operators (which is almost undetectable if only done in moderation).

P2Pool isn’t ideal for low speed (e.g. CPU) miners, and may never be— but it’s absolutely a no brainier for anyone who would even consider solo-mining and a good majority of the people in between.                

 if you are looking for nodes to join this cool way of mining keeping mining for the miners look at the links belowhttp://poolnode.info/ (look for the node that is close to you so you have the least lagg )http://beam.to/dbp2pool (my own p2pool node )

3catparty • #11 • 2016-01-05 04:04:52
@c-monk, I've been wanting to know more about P2P mode. Also wondering if it's worth trying to solo mine with 100 THs hash speed.

As for @from.ed, Not sure what your issue is. If you mine at the PPS sites you mention, after you deduct the share cost, you'll get 97% or so of the mining revenue, or thereabouts, depending on what they charge, typically 3% or so. Antpool's PPLNS gives you a chance to do better, if lucky. I guess it depends on your risk tolerance and if you mind paying a percentage for a sense of security.
I also mine on Slush, who have been running dismal luck for a month (83%), but just now had a couple of days over 150%. Over time it comes out in the wash.
c-monk • #12 • 2016-01-05 11:54:33
@3catparty    
It would be great if you supported p2pool network maybe just try 50% of your hash for a week also get the nearest p2pool to your location also get a fallover p2pool as you don't lose any of your shares when it falls over and maybe put a third p2pool in also be aware that it will take a few hours to settle in than away you go also try and get a pool that hasn't any fees a few are 1% max  user name your btc address + diff of your miner or miners

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool

http://poolnode.info/

let me know how you go on
regards chris
3catparty • #13 • 2016-01-07 05:14:08
@c-monk
thanks for the info. I'm not a developer(not since the 1990's - lol!) and a little less tech savvy than many bitcoiners so please bear with me.

Can I just point my Antminer (S3+, S5 or S7) to one of the nodes, using the miner dashboard interface?
What's the syntax for adding a difficulty value?
c-monk • #14 • 2016-01-07 12:29:54
@3catparty 

Yes you can eg: one of my S7   http://82.171.124.18:9332   U:1LhPpNWGZcTJN6uyNhd3Pnp9DPxy8ooxH/8096+8096  P: x
Regards Chris

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